Spirtual Discussion

 

Spiritual Discussion

YES, for two reasons:

The first reason is proof for myself: I have been there and need no other proof. But I don't expect you to believe Heaven exists merely because someone says they've been to Heaven. Therefore, the second reason is what should be most important to you.

The second reason is that Heaven (a place where our spirit - our soul- will reside eternally in the presence of God's light and love and all that is good) exists because God created us to be with Him eternally as a reward for obeying His divine and natural laws. Our powers of reason tell us that when God created us, He had a purpose, and being infinitely good, that purpose was to enable us to share in His love, His light, His beauty, His power, His grace, and in everything that is possible for Him to share with us. If you had a banquet with tables filled with all the best foods in the world, you would want to share them with your children - because you love them completely. God's being is more than a banquet of the best foods in the world, God's being is filled with infinitely more superior things. God's being is filled with infinite love and all things good - AND - we "are" His children.

Some have seen God face-to-face and have received a taste of God's infinite light, love, beauty, power, and so forth, but the glimpse can only be temporary, and that is because the person who is experiencing God face-to-face is a temporal being, and as such, cannot have an eternal experience without leaving the temporal existence. To experience God eternally, one must permanently leave the spatio-temporal universe, since God exists in the eternal spiritual universe and is incompatible with the spatio-temporal universe. That is because God cannot exist within what He created. Therefore, Heaven - being in God's presence eternally - exists in the "other universe", the spiritual universe reserved for those who love God, and in this life, only a glimpse is possible.

Consequently, because God is infinitely just and infinitely merciful, our powers of reason tell us that an infinitely intelligent being had to have a just reason for creating us, and that reason is to reward those who exercise their will in obeying Him, and to reject those who defy His will (who will thereby suffer the loss of His love, light and infinite goodness).

Please review what I have written about God in other parts of this website for additional proofs regarding God's attributes which give an added dimension for the proof of the existence of Heaven, because the more you know about God, the closer you will be to Heaven, and the more your doubts will evaporate.

The word "theology" comes from the Greek words "theos" (God) and "logos" (discourse or study), or "the study of God". The word "philosophy" comes from the Greek words "philein" (to love) and "sophia" (wisdom), or "the love of or the search for wisdom".

Today, those words have been corrupted so that whoever studies scriptures of one religion or another is incorrectly classified as a theologian, even though they may know nothing about God except what they read, or what others teach them about God. They do not study God - they study books that are supposed to be "the truth" about God, when in fact, these books at times, contain blasphemies. These so-called theologians are nothing more than biblicists.

A philosopher today is considered an atheistic rationalist or a theistic rationalist, although not by their own choosing. By no stretch of the imagination, philosophers today know more about God than these self-proclaimed theologians. The reason for the animosity shown by today's "theologians" toward philosophers is that today's philosophers are correctly pointing out the incompatibility between what these self-proclaimed theologians believe and teach about God - and what are the real truths about God. For example, there are theologians who teach that God is comprised of three persons, whereas, philosophers can prove that God is unity, indivisible, and could never be composed of three persons, or three any things for that matter. That is because the philosopher can prove that God is the Uncaused Cause (singular), the Prime Mover (singular), the Infinite One (singular), the Eternal One (singular), and so forth, thereby, refuting the claim of these self-proclaimed theologians that God is three persons.

Today's so-called theologians teach that God could become something God created, such as, God could become a man, an animal or a thing. Philosophers can prove that God cannot become anything because God is immutable, and by becoming something, God would have to change, and be posterior to Himself, which is absurd. If God could be something He created, God would be an effect. God is the Uncaused Cause of all that is, and therefore, God could never be an effect.

Today's so-called theologians cannot refute philosophers who are considered theistic rationalists, so they instead attack atheistic rationalists (John Dewey, etc.) who try to use philosophy to prove the non-existence of God. In fact, the writings of Greek philosophers such as Aristotle are used today in Christian universities - to prove God exists. These writings were translated by Thomas Aquinas and are called the Thomistic proofs of God's existence. These Aristotelian translations were incongruously adapted to Christian theology.

So that when the Greek philosophers provided rational arguments to prove God exists (by another name such as the Prime Cause and the Prime Mover), those writings were banned by the church. But when the Church took those same proofs and "Christianized" them in the Summa Theologica, they were blessed by the Church. The problem arose, however, when the Church chose arguments that blended into their faith, and discarded arguments that refuted the myths in their faith.

The myths being that a man can be God, and God can become a man. Additional myths, such as the trinity doctrine, necessarily flowed from that basic myth, and were incongruous with some of the Greek writings. The incongruity is very evident in the Summa, as well as, the Athanasian Creed. The Summa, for example, in one part, adequately proves that God is unity and indivisible, but in another part, where the writings argue that God is a trinity of persons, it is incongruous with its previous argument that God is unity and indivisible. When arguing for the trinity of persons, as defined in the Athanasian Creed, it argues that all three persons are distinct, and further argues that all three persons are innascent, infinite, and so on. The argument, unknowingly, is attempting to prove that there are three first causes, three prime movers, three necessary beings, etc. This is so absurd that it not only defies all logic, but it also insults the intellect, and blasphemes God's nature and person.

In conclusion, true theologians are those who know the truths about God through God's gift of reason. These theologians are sometimes called theistic rationalists, such as Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson and George Washington. False theologians are those who claim to know God through "holy" books which describe God as a genocidal maniac, for example, in 1Samuel 15:3. These false theologians fear theistic rationalists because theistic rationalists swiftly, smoothly and with a clear conscience expose the false theologians' blasphemous teachings.

God gave us the gift of reason, it is very precious, so do not fear to use it. God will bless you for it - over and over and over.

Some theologians try to explain how God could be present in everything by making qualifications, such as, "God is omnipresent spiritually", or "God is omnipresent causally", etc. This leads skeptics to declare that "the idea of God's being omnipresent" dies the death of a thousand qualifications.

Without qualifications - God in His essence - is not present in anything. The pantheists believe that God is everything and everything is God, while panentheists believe that God includes the whole of the natural world as an integral and immanent part of Himself. Both err in that God could never be contained in something He created since it can be proven that God is the Prime Cause of all creation

Some are confused because they argue that creation is spatio-temporal, while God is spiritual and eternal, and therefore, God cannot be within us but is "out there somewhere". Therein lies the confusion. Yes, we do exist in the spatio-temporal universe, but we are not exclusively spatio-temporal beings, we are also spiritual beings who possess God's spirit within us. As finite beings, we cannot contain the infinite (God's essence/His entire being), but we can possess His spirit.

The spirit that resides within us is the link that allows us to know God as God really is - but - as God exists in the eternal universe, not in the spatio-temporal universe. So the pantheists and the panentheists seem to forget that God in His essence and fulness, cannot exist within what He created - for many reasons - such as, the infinite cannot be contained within the finite, the eternal cannot be contained within the temporal, the spiritual cannot be contained within the physical, etc.

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NOTE: The following question has been asked by political leaders, movie stars, and others. I prefer to answer it up front, to minimize the correspondence regarding this question. The question is:

"Can you give us instructions on how we can experience an NDE, or Near Death Experience?"

I was asked this question yesterday: "How can I see God face-to-face as you have?"

The first thing to remember is that to see God in this life, as God really is, and not through smoked glass, and not to be consumed by God's Infinite Love and Light - is purely a gift. We do not earn it.

The second thing to remember is that you must desire God, and you must have a degree of "desirelessness" regarding earthly things and pleasures. We can achieve desirelessness, but it doesn't mean we have arrived at the Beatific Vision or the Sight of God. But when we witness the Beatific Vision or the Sight of God, we are in a state of desirelessness. God is the one Who chooses to manifest Himself to us. It is not we who manifest ourselves to God.

In my book "Seven Paths To Glory, Simplified Theology For A Troubled World", I present you with all the "ammunition" necessary to get you as close to God as you possibly can get. In my book Beyond the Universe, I prepare you with the background you will need, or put another way, I hope to prepare the soil (your soul) for the planting of the spiritual seeds.

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FAQ

My books answer many other questions, too numerous to include in this section

Yes God's existence can be proven through many ways, such as the so-called Thomistic proofs (through motion, cause and effect, and so on), and through many other proofs of philosophers and theologians who were not necessarily of any religious persuasion. (Please refer to question number 27 for a proof through motion, and please refer to my latest book "A Vision of God, Christ's Real Passion" for all of the proofs mentioned, in addition to, my very own "new proof" called Proof Through Pre-Existence.)

No If God were to talk, God would not be God because God is a pure spirit and talking implies that the person talking is a physical being, which God is not. Some will argue that God is omnipotent and can do anything, such as speaking, and if He cannot speak, His power is limited and therefore, He would not be omnipotent.. That sounds logical, but it is illogical, because God cannot be what He is not. He cannot be pure spirit, and then be admixed with matter which is a requirement for making audible sounds, such as speaking. Secondly, it is not a limitation for God to be the opposite of what He is, because God cannot defy His nature, else God would not be God. A beautiful flower cannot at the same time be ugly, a newborn baby cannot at the same time be an old person, and so on.

Why does the Bible refer to God speaking, such as to Moses and others, where God is speaking in long sentences and paragraphs, giving specific instructions about physical things, such as in Genesis, Chapter 6

We read in Genesis 6:12: When God saw how corrupt the earth had become, since all mortals led depraved lives on earth, he said to Noah: "I have decided to put an end to all mortals on earth; the earth is full of lawlessness because of them. So I will destroy them and all life on earth. Make yourself an ark of gopherwood, put various compartments in it, and cover it inside and out with pitch. This is how you shall build it: the length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, its width fifty cubits, and its height thirty cubits."

I don't know why the Bible is replete with passages wherein God is speaking. I cannot question the writers, they are all dead. What I know is that God cannot speak because of His nature. He is an infinitely pure spirit, He is omnipotent and can accomplish His will by simply willing it. One can also refute any arguments that God speaks by simply showing that speaking is a changing of pitch or tones, which is required when we speak. We modulate our voices in amplitude when we shout for example or are angry. And there are passages that indicate that God was angry. We change the frequency or phase so that we can have low or high tones, and so forth. What is being described to you is the process of speaking; it requires changes, changes in pitch, changes in tone, changes in amplitude. But it can be proven that God cannot change for as soon as there is a change in God, whether it is a vocal change or some other change, it destroys His attribute of immutability and God is absolutely perfect in all His attributes and therefore He cannot change, and therefore He cannot speak. Some may argue that God's omnipotence allows Him to do anything. That is false. For example, God cannot love evil, and neither can He corrupt His nature by assuming another nature that allows Him to speak for He no longer would be absolutely perfect, because then He would have become mutable, and that is theologically absurd. Another reason why God cannot speak is that speaking requires vocal chords and air to be used in generating sound, so vocal chords, air, and even sound are composed of matter, and God because of His infinitely pure spirit cannot coexist with matter in the essence of His being.

 

 

Discussion Highlights

In Does Heaven Exist, Carmen provides a clearer understanding of Heaven, to bring the reader closer to God by avoiding the pitfalls associated with myths and legends.

In Theology v. Philosophy, Carmen attempts to show the close relationship between philosophy and theology and how both are pathways to the Divine.